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|BoB
|BoB
|[[Mario Wings to the Sky]]
|[[Mario Wings to the Sky]]
|'''It is marked as possible but no strategy has been given'''
|'''It is marked as possible but no detailed strategy has been given'''. It is technically possible to do this coinless without BLJs by cloning the top coins then touching the very top of the secret's hitbox. However, for the 4th and 5th secrets, cannonballs in differing heights at rather high places are needed. With at least 30 clones for the base strat using A presses (no BLJ),<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZrZgaU2z6Y</ref> the amount of clones needed seems prohibitively expensive.
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|BoB
|BoB
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|WF
|WF
|[[To the Top of the Fortress]]
|[[To the Top of the Fortress]]
|Platform displacement<ref>https://youtu.be/W-tNlZRN2zc?t=1214</ref>
|Platform displacement<ref>https://youtu.be/W-tNlZRN2zc?t=1214</ref> (using BCA instead of Hat-in-hand)
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|WF
|WF
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|HMC
|[[Swimming Beast in the Cavern]]
|Use the elevator clip to fall down onto the star from above. In general the usual ABC strats work for HMC.
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|SL
|SL
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|[[In the Deep Freeze]]
|[[In the Deep Freeze]]
|Dive recover onto a spindrift
|Dive recover onto a spindrift
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|SL
|[[Into the Igloo]]
|The ABC TAS collects the coins on the slope leading up to the igloo, but this is avoidable using the shell path from 4:06 in the above buttonless strategy link and the fly guy. The coins inside the igloo are easily avoided by going back the way you came.
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|TTM
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|The top of this slope at https://youtu.be/kdkxmCwqd58?t=14 is reachable, at which point a fly guy bounce can be used to reach a star or skip the one remaining line of coins.
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|THI
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|Entering the huge island is doable 0xA CCC using a double goomba bounce
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|WDW
|WDW
|[[Quick Race Through Downtown!]]
|[[Quick Race Through Downtown!]]
|The ABC cloning strategy does not violate CCC<ref>https://youtu.be/7jqrAohBTxg</ref>
|The ABC cloning strategy does not violate CCC<ref>https://youtu.be/7jqrAohBTxg</ref>
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|TTC
|[[Roll into the Cage]]
|After the spinners (Get a Hand), the cogs can be surpassed with dive recovers and VSC, and a convenient bob-omb teleports to Mario thanks to a preset holp OOB, which is used to get onto the treadmill right next to the star.
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|TTC
|TTC
|[[Get a Hand]]
|[[Get a Hand]]
|The red coin collected in https://youtu.be/9P3IYctNY4s is avoidable with consistent movement up the spinners.
|The red coin collected in https://youtu.be/9P3IYctNY4s is avoidable with consistent movement up the spinners.
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|RR
|[[Tricky Triangles!]]
|The coins in the 0xA strat are avoidable.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61kko9pCq9g</ref>
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!Reason
!Reason
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|CCC
|CCM
|[[Slip Slidin' Away]]
|[[Slip Slidin' Away]]
|Going down the slide collects coins
|Going down the slide collects coins. But this is '''probably doable''' using the Palix' penguin clip (turnaround animation ending transitions into walking which opens the door from the other side). The strat uses a backflip but Mario could probably get into the right spot by falling from done.
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|CCC
|CCM
|[[Big Penguin Race]]
|[[Big Penguin Race]]
|Going down the slide collects coins
|Going down the slide collects coins
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|[[Elevator Tour in the Volcano]]
|[[Elevator Tour in the Volcano]]
|The faster strat goes on the small islands that have coins; the longer strat happens to collect coins to help refill health.
|The faster strat goes on the small islands that have coins; the longer strat happens to collect coins to help refill health.
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|SL
|[[Into the Igloo]]
|The ABC TAS collects the coins on the slope leading up to the igloo, but ''this is almost certainly possible'' using the fly guy (at worst, with an assist from moneybags). The coins inside the igloo are easily avoided by going back the way you came.
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|TTC
|TTC
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|The corner of the platform where the pole is is obstructed by coins. Additionally, [[Stomp on the Thwomp]] requires the 100 coin star.
|The corner of the platform where the pole is is obstructed by coins. Additionally, [[Stomp on the Thwomp]] requires the 100 coin star.
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|RR
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|Many 0xA strategies involve the lakitu bounce, and it is unknown whether the coins from that bounce are avoidable. '''They probably are'''.
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|BitDW
|BitDW

Latest revision as of 00:57, 24 July 2024

A-Button Coinless Capless Cannonless Challenge
Abbreviation ABC-CCC
Individual stars collectible 65+?
Overall stars collectible 64+?
Is beatable No
Star Details
BoB

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WF

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JRB

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CCM

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BBH

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HMC

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LLL

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SSL

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DDD

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SL

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WDW

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TTM

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THI

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TTC

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RR

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Secret

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Castle

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Bowser

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The ABC CCC Challenge is a combination of the A Button Challenge and the CCC Challenge. Though note that cannons were off the table for the ABC anyway.

Stars

Just like the CCC Challenge, 38 stars require coins and Snowman's Lost His Head can only be selected after Frosty Slide for 8 Red Coins.

Possible stars with non-trivial strategies
Course Star Strategy
BoB Shoot to the Island in the Sky Shell hyperspeed
BoB Mario Wings to the Sky It is marked as possible but no detailed strategy has been given. It is technically possible to do this coinless without BLJs by cloning the top coins then touching the very top of the secret's hitbox. However, for the 4th and 5th secrets, cannonballs in differing heights at rather high places are needed. With at least 30 clones for the base strat using A presses (no BLJ),[1] the amount of clones needed seems prohibitively expensive.
BoB Behind Chain Chomp's Gate Shell hyperspeed
WF To the Top of the Fortress Platform displacement[2] (using BCA instead of Hat-in-hand)
WF Blast Away the Wall Cannonless
JRB Treasure of the Ocean Cave The ABC does this 0.5xA
todo
HMC Swimming Beast in the Cavern Use the elevator clip to fall down onto the star from above. In general the usual ABC strats work for HMC.
SL Snowman's Big Head Replace the moneybag bounces in the buttonless strat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih3aBGxWzJA with a dive recover.
SL In the Deep Freeze Dive recover onto a spindrift
SL Into the Igloo The ABC TAS collects the coins on the slope leading up to the igloo, but this is avoidable using the shell path from 4:06 in the above buttonless strategy link and the fly guy. The coins inside the igloo are easily avoided by going back the way you came.
TTM The top of this slope at https://youtu.be/kdkxmCwqd58?t=14 is reachable, at which point a fly guy bounce can be used to reach a star or skip the one remaining line of coins.
THI Entering the huge island is doable 0xA CCC using a double goomba bounce
WDW Quick Race Through Downtown! The ABC cloning strategy does not violate CCC[3]
TTC Roll into the Cage After the spinners (Get a Hand), the cogs can be surpassed with dive recovers and VSC, and a convenient bob-omb teleports to Mario thanks to a preset holp OOB, which is used to get onto the treadmill right next to the star.
TTC Get a Hand The red coin collected in https://youtu.be/9P3IYctNY4s is avoidable with consistent movement up the spinners.
RR Tricky Triangles! The coins in the 0xA strat are avoidable.[4]
Stars not done (excluding ones not done in ABC or CCC)
Course Star/Key Reason
CCM Slip Slidin' Away Going down the slide collects coins. But this is probably doable using the Palix' penguin clip (turnaround animation ending transitions into walking which opens the door from the other side). The strat uses a backflip but Mario could probably get into the right spot by falling from done.
CCM Big Penguin Race Going down the slide collects coins
BBH Eye to Eye in the Secret Room Coins are used to refill health for scuttle transporting
LLL Hot-Foot-It into the Volcano Coins are used to refill health for lava boosting
LLL Elevator Tour in the Volcano The faster strat goes on the small islands that have coins; the longer strat happens to collect coins to help refill health.
TTC The corner of the platform where the pole is is obstructed by coins. Additionally, Stomp on the Thwomp requires the 100 coin star.
RR Many 0xA strategies involve the lakitu bounce, and it is unknown whether the coins from that bounce are avoidable. They probably are.
BitDW Basement key The walkway is obstructed by coins[5]

References

  1. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZrZgaU2z6Y
  2. ↑ https://youtu.be/W-tNlZRN2zc?t=1214
  3. ↑ https://youtu.be/7jqrAohBTxg
  4. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61kko9pCq9g
  5. ↑ https://youtu.be/Qpl5lnxiU6k?t=79
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