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The current route begins by heading the normal direction most players would, but triple jumps into the corner below and to the right of [[Roll into the Cage]]. This is followed by two normal wall kicks, and then a [[glitchy wall kick]] to keep the same direction to dive towards the [[Get a Hand|Get a Hand star]] cubby. After landing in the cubby, a long jump into a wall kick is done immediately to reach the [[cog]] for another wall kick. Worth noting, this cog position is where it is due to the random setting cog of the clock, and therefore [[RNG]], and requires precise work to have it in the needed range. | The current route begins by heading the normal direction most players would, but triple jumps into the corner below and to the right of [[Roll into the Cage]]. This is followed by two normal wall kicks, and then a [[glitchy wall kick]] to keep the same direction to dive towards the [[Get a Hand|Get a Hand star]] cubby. After landing in the cubby, a long jump into a wall kick is done immediately to reach the [[cog]] for another wall kick. Worth noting, this cog position is where it is due to the random setting cog of the clock, and therefore [[RNG]], and requires precise work to have it in the needed range. | ||
Wall kicking off the cog, there is a precise wall kick off the cage around the | Wall kicking off the cog, there is a precise wall kick off the cage around the Roll into the Cage star to get on top. Upon landing, another long jump into a wall kick is executed, which leads into another glitchy wall kick. The glitchy wall kick provides a better angle to be able to jump off the [[pendulum]] (which is also where it is due to RNG). This jump off the pendulum is led into by a speed kick-double jump combo that allows the jump off the pendulum to be a triple jump. This triple leads into yet another wall kick that lands on the cage beneath [[Timed Jumps on Moving Bars]]. | ||
Upon landing, a sideflip into a wall kick allows Mario to land above the | Upon landing, a sideflip into a wall kick allows Mario to land above the Timed Jumps on Moving Bars star. A creative long jump into the exclamation block here allows two wall kicks that give enough height to land on the walkway that leads to the higher hand. After following the path to the area below the Stomp on the Thwomp star, an unorthodox triple jump into a well placed wall kick allows Mario to land on the treadmill. This is enough height to sideflip onto the thwomp, and single jump into the star. | ||
The improvements to this route supposedly came in the form of small improvements (which happens in the case of most time saves) and better RNG. RNG is logical as this route has mario interacting with two [[treadmill|treadmills]], a pendulum, the [[thwomp]], and a very specific wall kick of a cog. | The improvements to this route supposedly came in the form of small improvements (which happens in the case of most time saves) and better RNG. RNG is logical as this route has mario interacting with two [[treadmill|treadmills]], a pendulum, the [[thwomp]], and a very specific wall kick of a cog. |
Revision as of 11:43, 29 September 2018
Stomp on the Thwomp | |
Star Info | |
Course | Tick Tock Clock |
Height Above Ground | 249 |
Course Records | |
TAS World Record | 17.90 |
RTA World Record | 21.58[1] |
ABC Minimum | 5[2] |
ABZ Minimum | 15[3] |
Stomp on the Thwomp, or SotT for short, is the fourth mission of Tick Tock Clock. The star requires navigation through the entirety of the mainly vertical clock to reach the thwomp at the top. Due to the length of the star and the distance it covers, it is usually combined with the 100 coin star in speedrunner's routes.
This star is particularly difficult in certain challenges, such as the A Button Challenge and ABZ Button Challenge. The massive vertical climb takes many seemingly unavoidable presses to scale, and often involves maximizing the value out of every press used.
TAS WR History
In terms of TAS records for SotT, most optimization has gone into SotT + 100 coin star (all four 120 TASes combine the two stars). Some TASers still took the time to claim the IL record, however, and it has resulted in a fairly decent point for a non-full game star. Sadly, both the current WR and previous WR have been lost due to copyright claims on nicovideos by Nintendo and the user deleting their account on YouTube. Template:History
TAS Strategy
This is mainly describing Nahoc's 18.87 TAS since the two improvements since have been lost.
The current route begins by heading the normal direction most players would, but triple jumps into the corner below and to the right of Roll into the Cage. This is followed by two normal wall kicks, and then a glitchy wall kick to keep the same direction to dive towards the Get a Hand star cubby. After landing in the cubby, a long jump into a wall kick is done immediately to reach the cog for another wall kick. Worth noting, this cog position is where it is due to the random setting cog of the clock, and therefore RNG, and requires precise work to have it in the needed range.
Wall kicking off the cog, there is a precise wall kick off the cage around the Roll into the Cage star to get on top. Upon landing, another long jump into a wall kick is executed, which leads into another glitchy wall kick. The glitchy wall kick provides a better angle to be able to jump off the pendulum (which is also where it is due to RNG). This jump off the pendulum is led into by a speed kick-double jump combo that allows the jump off the pendulum to be a triple jump. This triple leads into yet another wall kick that lands on the cage beneath Timed Jumps on Moving Bars.
Upon landing, a sideflip into a wall kick allows Mario to land above the Timed Jumps on Moving Bars star. A creative long jump into the exclamation block here allows two wall kicks that give enough height to land on the walkway that leads to the higher hand. After following the path to the area below the Stomp on the Thwomp star, an unorthodox triple jump into a well placed wall kick allows Mario to land on the treadmill. This is enough height to sideflip onto the thwomp, and single jump into the star.
The improvements to this route supposedly came in the form of small improvements (which happens in the case of most time saves) and better RNG. RNG is logical as this route has mario interacting with two treadmills, a pendulum, the thwomp, and a very specific wall kick of a cog.
ABC WR History
Stomp on the Thwomp has been known as a difficult star for the A button challenge for a long time, and for this reason it is often excluded from early lists. bobmario511 was the first known person to actually route and perform a TAS for the star, producing 4 over a period of one month. Having gotten the count to 15 presses, bobmario511 was fairly certain the route was maxed, and felt comfortable with the TAS.
Date | Count | Saved | Improvement Author(s) | Setting | Save Description/Notes |
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Dec 23, 2007 | 28[4] | bobmario511 | Original. No Video. | ||
Dec 24, 2007 | 22[5] | 6 | bobmario511 | Non-Still | |
Jan 18, 2008 | 18[6] | 4 | bobmario511 | Non-Still | Sideflips over yellow blocks (-1), jumps and wall kicks off hand to Roll into the Cage (-1), slide kicks from lower yellow block near Timed Jumps on Moving Bars to the other (-1), clips onto lower rotating triangle (-1) |
Jan 24, 2008 | 16[7] | 2 | bobmario511 | Non-Still | Slidekicks to higher rotating triangle (-1), dive recovers to reach star (-1) |
Jan 26, 2008 | 15[8] | 1 | bobmario511 | Non-Still | Uses ledge grabs/grinding to reach first treadmill |
Sep 17, 2013 | 9[9] | 6 | pannenkoek2012 | Non-Still | Navigates up spinners (-3), double jump/wall kicks onto yellow block before the pole (-1), heave-ho's to the higher level (-1), double jump/wall kicks to the upper walkway from the yellow block (-1) |
Jul 10, 2014 | 8[10] | 1 | pannenkoek2012 | Non-Still | Uses a bloated bob-omb to clip from the Roll into the Cage area to the walkway.[11] |
Mar 9, 2015 | 7[12] | 1 | pannenkoek2012 | Fast | Uses a Star Dance Clip and VSC to get past the yellow elevator block before the pole.[13] |
Dec 31, 2015 | 6[14] | 1 | pannenkoek2012, Tyler Kehne | Still | Pedro spot in still cogs used to double jump straight to the thwomp.[15] |
Nov 6, 2016 | 6[16] | pannenkoek2012 | Random | Uses pendulum manipulation to get onto yellow box near Timed Jumps on Moving Bars.[17] Also applies fire clone SDC to the cog area.[18] | |
Oct 15, 2017 | 6[19] | pannenkoek2012 | Random | Uses a PBH thrown bomb-omb to get off the pole, saves time from cloning.[20] | |
Oct 28, 2017 | 5[21] | 1 | Iwer Sonsch, pannenkoek2012 | Still | Better angle in cog pedro spot that allows straight jump onto the thwomp.[22] |
Jun 24, 2018 | 5[23] | bad_boot, Sidney, Tyler Kehne, pannenkoek2012 | Random | Usage of HSG in the Sidney Spot to jump straight from Roll into the Cage to the area above.[24] | |
Oct 11, 2018 | 3[25] | 2 | ds273, pannenkoek2012, [jongyon, sidney (cog misa)] | Random | Managed to access the pendulum box pedro spot by using a bob-omb push through the ceiling above.[26] Also utilized the highest Cog Misalignment which allowed free HOLP usage.[27] |
Oct 18, 2018 | 2[28] | 1 | pannenkoek2012 | Random | Utilized VSC from the pedro box spot onto the clock hand to reach the thwomp.[29] |
References
- ↑ "Super Mario 64 - Stomp On The Thwomp 21"58" by Xiah
- ↑ "TTC Stomp on the Thwomp 5x A Presses" by pannenkoek2012
- ↑ "SM64 ABZ Button Challenge PAL" Document
- ↑ [1]
- ↑ "TTC star#4 A button challenge (22)" by bobmario511
- ↑ "sm64- TTC- all stars A button challenge (TAS)" by bobmario511
- ↑ "sm64- TTC star#4 A button challenge (17) TAS" by bobmario511
- ↑ "sm64- TTC- all stars A button challenge (TAS) updated" by bobmario511
- ↑ "SM64 - Stomp on the Thwomp - 9x A Presses" by pannenkoek2012
- ↑ "SM64 - Stomp on the Thwomp - 8x A Presses" by pannenkoek2012
- ↑ "TTC Bob-omb Strat Followup" by pannenkoek2012
- ↑ "SM64 - Stomp on the Thwomp - 7x A Presses" by pannenkoek2012
- ↑ "TTC Elevator Strat with Live Bob omb" by pannenkoek2012
- ↑ "SM64 - Stomp on the Thwomp - 6x A Presses (Commentated)" by pannenkoek2012
- ↑ "TTC Pedro Spot on Cogs during Still Setting" by pannenkoek2012
- ↑ "TTC Stomp on the Thwomp 6x Alternative Strat" by pannenkoek2012
- ↑ "TTC Pendulum Manipulation A Press Saves" by pannenkoek2012
- ↑ "TTC Alternate 100 Coin Setup for Midair Firebounce SDC" by pannenkoek2012
- ↑ "TTC Stomp on the Thwomp 6x Faster Strat using PBH" by pannenkoek2012
- ↑ "TTC Bob-omb to Pole using Pause Buffered Hitstun" by pannenkoek2012
- ↑ "TTC Stomp on the Thwomp 5x A Presses" by pannenkoek2012
- ↑ "DID SOMEBODY SAY...?????" by Iwer Sonsch
- ↑ "TTC Stomp on the Thwomp 5x A Presses Alternative Strat" by pannenkoek2012
- ↑ "Confirmed 2xA Save in TTC (Treadmill HSG)" by Tyler Kehne
- ↑ "TTC Stomp on the Thwomp 3x A Presses" by pannenkoek2012
- ↑ "SM64 - TTC Pendulum Box Pedro Spot" by ds273
- ↑ "Cog Misalignment (A press save SOON!)" by DeRockProject & the Attack of the Really Long Channel Name
- ↑ "TTC Stomp on the Thwomp 2x A Presses" by pannenkoek2012
- ↑ "TTC VSC onto Thwomp Success" by pannenkoek2012