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After the lone A press save in 2019, a drought began where no A presses were saved at all lasting nearly 3 years. The challenge seemed to have reached its theoretical limits as most strategies and mechanics had been exhausted. But then suddenly, beginning in July 2022, a new era of multiple A press saves arrived. | After the lone A press save in 2019, a drought began where no A presses were saved at all lasting nearly 3 years. The challenge seemed to have reached its theoretical limits as most strategies and mechanics had been exhausted. But then suddenly, beginning in July 2022, a new era of multiple A press saves arrived. | ||
In July 2022, 3 A presses (all using the same unique press: to jump from hyperspeed grinding) in TTC was saved, when Sjmhrp managed to successfully TAS a squish cancel ground pound chain using the pendulum; with the help of a brute forcer. Note that in the same save other new tricks were utilised, such as Behind Camera Anywhere which had been found in 2021. In addition, a lot more planning and setup had to be used to minimize the amount of preset HOLPs needed, as only three are available throughout the entirety of TTC. | In July 2022, 3 A presses (all using the same unique press: to jump from hyperspeed grinding) in TTC was saved, when Sjmhrp managed to successfully TAS a squish cancel ground pound chain using the pendulum; with the help of a brute forcer. Note that in the same save other new tricks were utilised, such as Behind Camera Anywhere which had been found in 2021. In addition, a lot more planning and setup had to be used to minimize the amount of preset HOLPs needed, as only three are available throughout the entirety of TTC. While it wasn't known at the time, these improvements did not work on Wii VC due to that version rounding floats differently. | ||
But that wasn't the end. Only 2 months later, [[Elevator Tour in the Volcano]] was down to 0 A presses, after a lot of brute forcing of bully battery, which allowed Mario to reach PUs in the volcano, and the rotational platform PU displacement was used to go higher, hence reaching the star platform. This strategy was not possible on any Shindou version of the game, as the bully death cancel glitch was patched in those versions. | But that wasn't the end. Only 2 months later, [[Elevator Tour in the Volcano]] was down to 0 A presses, after a lot of brute forcing of bully battery, which allowed Mario to reach PUs in the volcano, and the rotational platform PU displacement was used to go higher, hence reaching the star platform. This strategy was not possible on any Shindou version of the game, as the bully death cancel glitch was patched in those versions. | ||
Then again, a few months after that, people finally managed to save the final A press in TTC: Stomp on the Thwomp. Already before, it was discovered that we can reach past the pole without a star dance clip (which was used for a platform after TJOMB). Also, getting off the pole is done the first time with a preset HOLP, but after that we can manipulate the Heave-ho (manipulating the Heave-ho to get to the pole's hole is impossible without already going past the pole). Also, ds273 and Marbler managed to get past the treadmills/spinners with a Bob-omb, and then used the same Bob-omb to clone fire to get on the Thwomp. But it took until November until it was done, because executing an SCGP so many times while avoiding damage (the 5 coins before the pole cannot be used anymore, and cloning coins occupies vacant slots) wasn't easy, so Sjmhrp TASed it again, this time without 2 fire clones. | Then again, a few months after that, people finally managed to save the final A press in TTC: Stomp on the Thwomp. Already before, it was discovered that we can reach past the pole without a star dance clip (which was used for a platform after TJOMB). Also, getting off the pole is done the first time with a preset HOLP, but after that we can manipulate the Heave-ho (manipulating the Heave-ho to get to the pole's hole is impossible without already going past the pole). Also, ds273 and Marbler managed to get past the treadmills/spinners with a Bob-omb, and then used the same Bob-omb to clone fire to get on the Thwomp. But it took until November until it was done, because executing an SCGP so many times while avoiding damage (the 5 coins before the pole cannot be used anymore, and cloning coins occupies vacant slots) wasn't easy, so Sjmhrp TASed it again, this time without 2 fire clones. Again, this improvement did not work on Wii VC, but it was not known until 2026. | ||
In February 2023, the Treasure of the Ocean Cave was reduced from 1 to 0.5 A presses. The A button still needs to be held for hyperspeed kicking. It was already before discovered that a large amount of horizontal speed is enough to reach the star, thanks to the rock near the chests. But it took all until now, that people discover to build speed using the long slope with the ! switch. The problem is that going from water to resume building speed loses some amount of speed (which is why HSW couldn't be used), but using this method, gaining speed finally managed to be bigger than losing from resuming it. | In February 2023, the Treasure of the Ocean Cave was reduced from 1 to 0.5 A presses. The A button still needs to be held for hyperspeed kicking. It was already before discovered that a large amount of horizontal speed is enough to reach the star, thanks to the rock near the chests. But it took all until now, that people discover to build speed using the long slope with the ! switch. The problem is that going from water to resume building speed loses some amount of speed (which is why HSW couldn't be used), but using this method, gaining speed finally managed to be bigger than losing from resuming it. | ||
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In March 2024, a strategy for Elevator Tour in the Volcano that worked on Shindou was completed. This involved achieving bully battery by getting the bully stuck in the crusher block instead of needing a bully death cancel in the lava. | In March 2024, a strategy for Elevator Tour in the Volcano that worked on Shindou was completed. This involved achieving bully battery by getting the bully stuck in the crusher block instead of needing a bully death cancel in the lava. | ||
In June 2026, it was discovered that the TTC improvements found in 2022 did not work on any Wii VC version of the game due to the round-to-zero glitch, meaning those versions required 4 more A presses in 120 Star than was previously thought. | |||
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