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There have been a few dead-end strategies for this star:
There have been a few dead-end strategies for this star:


* Hyperspeed- Utilizing hyperspeed, it is theoretically possible to launch yourself onto the star, avoiding the need to jump. It was shown by pannenkoek2012 that 500 speed would be sufficient to reach the star.<ref>[https://youtu.be/nKeBVjHztag "JRB Speed Conservation to Chest Star" by pannenkoek2012]</ref> This speed requirement was subsequently lowered to 280 by Superdavo0001,<ref>[https://youtu.be/amg4kaW1jGg "JRB Chest Star 0x With 280 Speed (Theory)" by Superdavo0001]</ref> and then to 262.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJYOQSlNHDA "SM64: JRB Chests 0x with 262 Speed (Hacked)" by Nim]</ref> Although significantly more feasible than 500, these speeds are notably above the maximum speed currently achievable in the course, which is around 160. A new hyperspeed method/application would be needed to make this work, otherwise, the speed needed would need to be greatly reduced again.
* Hyperspeed: Utilizing hyperspeed, it is theoretically possible to launch yourself onto the star, avoiding the need to jump. It was shown by pannenkoek2012 that 500 speed would be sufficient to reach the star.<ref>[https://youtu.be/nKeBVjHztag "JRB Speed Conservation to Chest Star" by pannenkoek2012]</ref> This speed requirement was subsequently lowered to 280 by Superdavo0001,<ref>[https://youtu.be/amg4kaW1jGg "JRB Chest Star 0x With 280 Speed (Theory)" by Superdavo0001]</ref> and then to 262.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJYOQSlNHDA "SM64: JRB Chests 0x with 262 Speed (Hacked)" by Nim]</ref> Although significantly more feasible than 500, these speeds are notably above the maximum speed currently achievable in the course, which is around 160. A new hyperspeed method/application would be needed to make this work, otherwise, the speed needed would need to be greatly reduced again.


* Water Shell Cloning- Typically to clone with a water shell an instant loading zone is required, such as in Dire, Dire Docks. It was shown by bad_boot that a loading zone would not be needed if there was a way to activate timestop while keeping control of Mario in the course with a water shell.<ref>[https://youtu.be/PkuDwnrs6Ls "Grabbing Water Shell Fake w/ Timestop (Hacked)" by bad_boot]</ref> Cloning would allow Mario to clone either goombas or the star directly. If a timestop glitch existed in JRB this would solve the star, however, there is currently no known way to do this.
* Water Shell Cloning: Typically to clone with a water shell an instant loading zone is required, such as in Dire, Dire Docks. It was shown by bad_boot that a loading zone would not be needed if there was a way to activate timestop while keeping control of Mario in the course with a water shell.<ref>[https://youtu.be/PkuDwnrs6Ls "Grabbing Water Shell Fake w/ Timestop (Hacked)" by bad_boot]</ref> Cloning would allow Mario to clone either goombas or the star directly. If a timestop glitch existed in JRB this would solve the star, however, there is currently no known way to do this.


* Spawning Displacement/Speed Conservation into the Demo- Using spawning displacement/speed conservation, it is possible to desync Mario during the demo sequences.<ref>[https://youtu.be/-0emgkIEobI "Collecting a Star during the Demo Idea" by pannekoek2012]</ref> One of these sequences exist in JRB, opening the possibility. However, no way to activate the star, even with an ideal placement, has been found. Even if it would be, it seems feasibly unlikely to be possible within the constraints of the ABC.
* Spawning Displacement/Speed Conservation into the Demo: Using spawning displacement/speed conservation, it is possible to desync Mario during the demo sequences.<ref>[https://youtu.be/-0emgkIEobI "Collecting a Star during the Demo Idea" by pannekoek2012]</ref> One of these sequences exist in JRB, opening the possibility. However, no way to activate the star, even with an ideal placement, has been found. Even if it would be, it seems feasibly unlikely to be possible within the constraints of the ABC.


== References ==
== References ==
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