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Updating routing and potential strats.
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|rta_link=[https://youtu.be/5FwUIOhQvO0 "Super Mario 64 - Stomp On The Thwomp 21"58" by Xiah] | |rta_link=[https://youtu.be/5FwUIOhQvO0 "Super Mario 64 - Stomp On The Thwomp 21"58" by Xiah] | ||
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|abz_link=[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lAf4RDjKIbpApFQUrjZe7K2tVtAu0FDY_SgaJkYAvhQ/ "SM64 ABZ Button Challenge PAL" Document] | |abz_link=[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lAf4RDjKIbpApFQUrjZe7K2tVtAu0FDY_SgaJkYAvhQ/ "SM64 ABZ Button Challenge PAL" Document] | ||
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Near Roll into the Cage, Mario now uses [[HSG|hyperspeed grinding]] to build up speed in the "Sidney Spot".<ref>[https://youtu.be/3I7y6zYEOGU "Interesting TTC Hyperspeed Spot" by Sidney600SM64]</ref> This essentially works by repeatably falling and landing, which can gain speed over time via air movement. Once Mario has enough speed, he can jump out of the spot, converting his horizontal speed to vertical speed, allowing him to land in the area near the The Pit and the Pendulums star. This is the first A press. | Near Roll into the Cage, Mario now uses [[HSG|hyperspeed grinding]] to build up speed in the "Sidney Spot".<ref>[https://youtu.be/3I7y6zYEOGU "Interesting TTC Hyperspeed Spot" by Sidney600SM64]</ref> This essentially works by repeatably falling and landing, which can gain speed over time via air movement. Once Mario has enough speed, he can jump out of the spot, converting his horizontal speed to vertical speed, allowing him to land in the area near the The Pit and the Pendulums star. This is the first A press. | ||
From here, Mario makes his way to the Pit and the Pendulums area where the back pendulum is manipulated via RNG. This eventually increases the magnitude of the arm movement enough to allow Mario be able to ride up the arm to get close to a [[pedro spot]] that is located above the pendulum box in the corners.<ref>[https://youtu.be/E0GbkSrx9Ik "TTC Pedro Spot on Pendulum Box" by pannenkoek2012]</ref> Having ridden the arm into a relatively close position, Mario is pushed into the ceiling by the pendulum arm. A bob-omb is dropped onto Mario from above, knocking him near the pedro spot. Finally, the pendulum arm pushes him into position. | From here, Mario makes his way to the Pit and the Pendulums area where the back pendulum is manipulated via RNG. This eventually increases the magnitude of the arm movement enough to allow Mario be able to ride up the arm to get close to a [[pedro spot]] that is located above the pendulum box in the corners.<ref>[https://youtu.be/E0GbkSrx9Ik "TTC Pedro Spot on Pendulum Box" by pannenkoek2012]</ref> Having ridden the arm into a relatively close position, Mario is pushed into the ceiling by the pendulum arm. A bob-omb is dropped onto Mario from above, knocking him near the pedro spot. From this spot, Mario manipulates the RNG to be in good condition for a later part of the TAS. Finally, the pendulum arm pushes him into position in the pedro spot. | ||
Mario now is able to build up large amounts of speed in this position (roughly 650), despite having to occasionally sacrifice speed to avoid the pendulum arm. Once he has enough speed, Mario jumps out of the spot by landing on the pendulum arm. Jumping converts the horizontal speed to vertical speed, giving Mario massive amounts of upwards mobility. (This is the second press). This speed is immediately conserved by landing on the floor directly about the spot. From here, Mario punches to the edge of the cage. Once | Mario now is able to build up large amounts of speed in this position (roughly 650), despite having to occasionally sacrifice speed to avoid the pendulum arm. Once he has enough speed, Mario jumps out of the spot by landing on the pendulum arm. Jumping converts the horizontal speed to vertical speed, giving Mario massive amounts of upwards mobility. (This is the second press). This speed is immediately conserved by landing on the floor directly about the spot. From here, Mario punches to the edge of the cage. At this point, all Mario needs to do is wait for the upper hand to get into position to land on. Once it is Mario falls off, using the upwards speed to navigate onto the upper clock hand and landing with C^ to conserve his vertical speed (VSC). | ||
Once on the hand, the hand ticks counter clockwise to the right side of the treadmill. This is a fairly uncommon occurrence- the hand ticks clockwise three times as often as counter clockwise, and has ticks three times as large. This rare situation is why the RNG manipulation on the pendulum box was important. Once the hand is near the treadmill, Mario punches off the hand and lands on the thwomp. From here, grabbing the star only requires a dive recover. | |||
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Initially, pannenkoek did calculations for the viability of this strategy, and came up with astronomically small likelihoods of success. This was due to needing roughly 1200 consecutive frames with calls, all with a one in seven chance. The strat was essentially declared dead at this point, and ruled as infeasible.<ref>[https://youtu.be/X4k5NGUjTWs "TTC Pedro Spot on Cogs Update" by pannenkoek2012]</ref> About a year later, Iwer Sonsch brought up the point that through small angle oscillations, Mario can stay in the pedro spot with less RNG calls. These small angles gradually grow over time (since Mario's speed is growing as well) and allow largely and larger angle oscillations until the spot becomes stable. This managed to drop the total from around 1200 RNG calls to about 80 or so. The analysis also showed that there was more than just one route (completely still) to work with, which opened other opportunities to aim for to increase the likelihood of there being a configuration that works.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/SM64ABC/comments/6pnkwt/ttc_pedro_spot_on_random_setting_via_oscillations/ "TTC Pedro Spot on Random Setting via Oscillations (Blueprint)" by Iwer Sonsch]</ref> Additionally since the release of pannenkoek's video, pendulum manipulation was discovered. This technique opens an incredibly large number of possible TTC states, magnitudes greater than what earlier calculations used giving the strategy even greater potential odds. | Initially, pannenkoek did calculations for the viability of this strategy, and came up with astronomically small likelihoods of success. This was due to needing roughly 1200 consecutive frames with calls, all with a one in seven chance. The strat was essentially declared dead at this point, and ruled as infeasible.<ref>[https://youtu.be/X4k5NGUjTWs "TTC Pedro Spot on Cogs Update" by pannenkoek2012]</ref> About a year later, Iwer Sonsch brought up the point that through small angle oscillations, Mario can stay in the pedro spot with less RNG calls. These small angles gradually grow over time (since Mario's speed is growing as well) and allow largely and larger angle oscillations until the spot becomes stable. This managed to drop the total from around 1200 RNG calls to about 80 or so. The analysis also showed that there was more than just one route (completely still) to work with, which opened other opportunities to aim for to increase the likelihood of there being a configuration that works.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/SM64ABC/comments/6pnkwt/ttc_pedro_spot_on_random_setting_via_oscillations/ "TTC Pedro Spot on Random Setting via Oscillations (Blueprint)" by Iwer Sonsch]</ref> Additionally since the release of pannenkoek's video, pendulum manipulation was discovered. This technique opens an incredibly large number of possible TTC states, magnitudes greater than what earlier calculations used giving the strategy even greater potential odds. | ||
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